Not there yet. Commonly (so the OYP tells us) yukkuris only dissolve when exposed to water in large amounts (pools, heavy rain, etc.) and/or over a long time. But then again, that depends on the artist, and judging from his/her works in here, Pixiv and even the OYP, Kanno pretty much belongs to the family-friendly side of the yukkuri fandom. And while we're at it, I also remembered a Pageratta comic showing a Yukkureimu acting like a kickboard for Chen (both of which are supposedly incompatible to water) - complete with the audacious claim "New fact: Yukkuris float."
From what I've read and I can't beleive I read up about these things lol. they do disolve in water after a period of time. So it can go under a faucet of water or in some water for a little bit as long as it gets out before it reaches disolving point. Also on a side note 1 yukkuri lives in water and doesnt disolve ant that one is based on Nitori... I spent to much time on the yukkuri wiki recently lawl.
It's just easier to say that Yukkuris work whichever way the artist/writer wants them to, meaning they can range anywhere from being the scum of the universe to surpreme wise deities and it wouldn't be false. Plus most artists that portray them in a positive light or as a miscellaneous setpiece flat-out ignore any characteristics Yukkuri fanon gave them.
MezzoDragon said: This is a nice picture. And, I don't mean to start a fight, but perhaps abuse pictures should be posted here. If only just so people can rip them to shreds.
Nah. Yukkuri violence is seen on a level similar (and in some cases lower) than actual guro to the point that nothing good would come from it. And honestly, even if abuse/trash Yukkuri pics were allowed, only a (very) small handful of artists' posts would survive through the que anyway and given the subject matter of the pics (Trash and Yukkuri violence), it's unlikely that they would achieve the love/hate reception that Depth Bomb and Tajima Yuuki have.
MezzoDragon, I agree with you about the mods on OYP being ridiculous and completely biased in favor of abuse fans, but I don't think that danbooru is the proper place to criticize abuse pics. Especially if it requires us to post them in the first place.
I don't know. Whenever I leave a comment that obliquely criticizes any aspect of abuse on any pic that isn't explicitly family friendly, I get called a "moral fag" and am accused of breaking the rules. I don't know where I can go without being steamrolled by abuse fans.
However, I don't think that danbooru should be dragged into this mess, especially since we seem to be good people. The problem with abuse pics isn't the violence, it's the mindset of the fans who refuse to acknowledge that the behavior of the abusers is at least as bad as the yukkuris'. This doesn't seem to be an issue here, so I'd prefer it if it was just avoided.
...Couldn't we upload both abusive and non-abusive pics, and then the people who like the abusive pics can look at the abusive pics, and the people who like the non-abusive pics can look at the non-abusive pics, and then the people who don't like the abusive pics can not-look at the abusive pics, and the people who don't like the non-abusive pics can not-look at the non-abusive pics?
Yeah, but abuse pics are morally repugnant. And that would be fine (it's fake and everything), but abuse fans have the unfortunate tendency to turn EVERY yukkuri pic into abuse. For a pic like this they would gleefully tell us that the yukkuri will die in a few minutes. If you don't believe me, check out OYP on any pic that isn't blatantly family-friendly.
Honestly, I originally found some of the abuse to be entertaining, it was the other abuse fans that drove me off of it. Best to keep the abuse riffraff out of here altogether.
MezzoDragon said: This is a nice picture. And, I don't mean to start a fight, but perhaps abuse pictures should be posted here. If only just so people can rip them to shreds.
To be honest, very little of the abuse comics would appeal to non-abusers because they are either so over the top that they become obscene and aside from the subject-matter, the art and writing is generally pretty poor.
There is the artist who did the "Shell-Marisa" series but other than that, I doubt any would survive on the merit of art alone. There is also the problem of inviting that community and that is something I do not want to happen.
MezzoDragon said: I understand. But looking at the over-the-top abuse annoys me. But seriously, there should be a site dedicated to yukkuri minus the unjust abuse.
http://booru.org/ You can make your own booru if you have the initiative. I would definitely join. I didn't even like the format of OYP anyway, being able to favorite pics would be great. There's a lot of good stuff on OYP that we could transfer over.
The main problem is the lameness of most abuse stories and the biggest problem to me is the smugness of most of the human characters. But I can't fault the stories for accurately representing the intended audience.
Tea's main argument is that all family-friendly images are the same and therefore no one can argue against abuse images. He also has the belief if someone doesn't believe exactly like he does, they are trolling. He is a social-worker and says that Yukkuri-abuse allows him to unwind after seeing a lot of the stresses in his job. He also hates Danbooru, using the strawman that we somehow want to personally spite him by banning abuse pictures and that we love guro and are just pussies or something. He also takes everything literally since somehow he thinks I want to kill people over yukkuri abuse.
Also Sun learned art to express his hatred towards people, I also remember a rant in which he said that it wasn't racist to hate Blacks because he hates them as a people, not because they are inferior, and that he wishes he could kill people without getting in trouble for it. I will say that he is a good artist because his clay-statues are pretty good, providing he actually made them.
I am responsible because I did a lot of "trolling" but honestly, I said things as harmless as, "I don't think a Yukkuri pouting means that it should be killed" and had fights break over that. T
I hope I'm not the only one who finds this creepy, "Theres nothing better then torturing kos that were stupid enough to go with anon, especially burning them, imagining how they wrigle in your hand, shake their sidelock and sqeel from pain just makes me happy. And it is also good to see reactions of their sisters and their reaction after they wake up from shock while their feet still freakin hurt and then they cant move, then it would be awesome to put food right next to them and watch how they cant reach it. Now if you excuse me Im gonna get some professional help. :)"
I hope I'm not the only one who finds this creepy, "Theres nothing better then torturing kos that were stupid enough to go with anon, especially burning them, imagining how they wrigle in your hand, shake their sidelock and sqeel from pain just makes me happy. And it is also good to see reactions of their sisters and their reaction after they wake up from shock while their feet still freakin hurt and then they cant move, then it would be awesome to put food right next to them and watch how they cant reach it. Now if you excuse me Im gonna get some professional help. :)"
Worry, not...I found that creepy too when I went to OYP. Evil bastards, the whole lot of them...
Kyukan said:
There was a comic of stray Yukkuri family begging money and then leaving to an alley. Some thug went after them, butchered them to his hearts content and took all the money. Just an ordinary rob murder.
That's horrible...
Kyukan said:
So Sun thinks that children, who are "stupid" enough to go with strange men deserve to be raped? Oh my. So Sun wants to kill people and Tea accuses you, Anelaid, of wanting to kill people? Contradiction extraordinaire!
Understatement of the year...
Kyukan said:
...considering that you were in the "enemy lair"...
Guess that makes me Public Enemy Number One over at OYP.
While I was over there looking for some cute Yukkuri images (believe it or not, there actually are some over there...), I found some of the twisted, evil ones and gave them some degree of hell for the evilness they were doing to the poor, innocent Yukkuri.
If they want to call me a butthurt, whiny, pansy noob, so be it. At least I won't be burning in hell for being an evil monster...
Speaking of SUN, I remembered an argument over this picture (also hosted here) against TheodoricBlood (another member of that site) concerning the addition of the "Reimu's Reimu" tag there. SUN argues that those who draw Hakurei Reimu aren't into abuse, so it's automatic. But I've to side with Theodoric here: there are pictures of Reimu abusing yukkuris, even Yukkureimus (e.g. Rorinko, although he/she also draws cute, family-friendly pics), and not everyone who draws Reimu with yukkuris are always family-friendly (e.g. Warekara has the occasional guro/abuse story, but is otherwise better known for a family-friendly 4koma series starring Reimu and her Yukkureimu).
Long story short: SUN seems to believe in generalizing yukkuris as the "lowest scum of the earth" instead of considering the "aberrations", like Reimu's Reimu (unusually kind and helpful compared to its kin), M1's "Orphan Alice" (a woobie who's not into raping other yukkuris), & Pageratta's "Noukarin" (a farmer Yuuka-type).
Anelaid said: He [Tea] also hates Danbooru, using the strawman that we somehow want to personally spite him by banning abuse pictures and that we love guro and are just pussies or something. He also takes everything literally since somehow he thinks I want to kill people over yukkuri abuse.
That hatred may have precipitated once Tea got a very long ban for posting low-quality, over-the-top abuse-oriented yukkuri pictures here, despite knowing that this place doesn't take too kindly to them.
jogiff said: Yeah, but abuse pics are morally repugnant. And that would be fine (it's fake and everything), but abuse fans have the unfortunate tendency to turn EVERY yukkuri pic into abuse.
Oh... it's gotten so worse even Shii (the guy behind OYP) issued a front-page notice warning against violent comments on family-friendly pics and vice versa.
zero5889 said: Oh... it's gotten so worse even Shii (the guy behind OYP) issued a front-page notice warning against violent comments on family-friendly pics and vice versa.
Oh, trust me, I know. But the problem is the way that they decide what's FF. Apparently anything where the yukkuri does anything "rage worthy" isn't FF. Including bragging. Or smirking. Or anything that they want.
And then there's their definition of "anti-abuse comments." I remember a long debate with JIE when I commented that I liked a particular abuse story because the abuser had a motive that wasn't "lololol violence." Immediately JIE freaks out and claims that abusing yukkuri doesn't make you an abuser and that they're just striking a blow for the working man by torturing arrogant yukkuri who demand sweetsweets. I pointed out that torture is not a rational way to respond to such petty arrogance (that basically comes down to a difference in culture) and that abusers are just rationalizing by calling it "JUSTICE."
So then the debate gets deleted and poweryoga threatens me with a ban for "tr[ying] to turn the discussion into a whole abusers-are-psychos type of deal."
Plus, OYP seems to have some of the stupidest commenters I have ever seen. I can't count on one hand the number of times JIE has thrown a fit because I intentionally misinterpreted a pic. Things like claiming that the yukkuris hadn't actually eaten their babies, they were just playing a prank with ketchup. Or that the human was actually preparing a chocolate bath to heal some injured koyukkuri he found on the road.
tl;dr: OYP is total shit, come to yukkuri.booru.org instead!
A lot of times these people make mountains out of molehills. I created an account called "Anelaidlreturns" and Tea wrote an essay about what I apparently meant to imply with the name "returns" and what not. My comments lately were deleted, since now you can't even say that you dislike meaningless abuse since its a matter of opinion, yet comments calling people who like non-violent artwork pussies were left untouched.
Anelaid said: A lot of times these people make mountains out of molehills. I created an account called "Anelaidlreturns" and Tea wrote an essay about what I apparently meant to imply with the name "returns" and what not. My comments lately were deleted, since now you can't even say that you dislike meaningless abuse since its a matter of opinion, yet comments calling people who like non-violent artwork pussies were left untouched.
Anelaidlreturns...Ya know, I actually thought you were one of the "enemies" on OYP. I'm sorry for my misjudgment. As you know all too well, my comments were also deleted from there. Sure, they were a tad over the top, but I can't help but notice the same thing you did. Comments expressing distaste for the abuse are ridiculed and deleted while the comments praising the abuse and downing Yuukuri defenders were allowed to remain up. Very strange. (not really)
I believe I owe you an apology as well, Mezzo. I thought you were one of the enemies too...I'm sorry.
I don't know what is funnier, their reaction or your reaction people.
You are pretty much doing the same thing they do, and complain about them not letting you do this on their site when you clearly don't want them to come here and do their abuse comments.
Can't you just, you know, ignore them? focus on your yukkuri stuff in danbooru or that booru that you made and go on with your life?
Man seriously, Yukkuris seems to always bring drama, even without having both abuse works and family friendly works like in OYP and having the 2 factions trying to share the same place, like here.
Considering this all is fiction, nobody makes a Crusade like you to abuse, against Guro and similar stuff. Let the guys have their own stuff. Honestly i'm always worried about each time i check a pic in danbooru about yukkuris that this kind of discussion pops out. You people are as obsessed with the Abuse guys doing their stuff as the Abuse guys are obsessed with yukkuri lovers to come and complain on each abuse work, while not wanting any complain to family works, at least they try to apply a bit of coexistence by having a big ass notorious rule on which it tells both factions to stick to what they like and don't bash what the other's like, and it's quite enforced, since abusers who go and bash family friendly in a family friendly work are pretty much chasticized even by notorious Abuser Fans like that Tea guy.
Can't you just IGNORE them!? Just that, they would probably Ignore you people as well if nobody pops up attacking abuse and stuff, since family friendly is rarely attacked and if it's attacked they jump on the attacker as well.
Seriously is so much to ask that each time i check yukkuri pics on danbooru i shouldn't fear the chance of someone yet again starting the neverending discussion about abuse?
You all get on OYP case, but you sure forget that all the yukkuri works come from Japan or China, that if anything they are an english site for the english speakers, and who translate any work FF or Abuse, for those who can't speak or read japanese.
Kyukan said: And he dares anybody else to believe otherwise. he will hang you for liking Yukkuri! XD
Tea is fucked up dude, who loves war. It is very obvious that OYP is abuse site. The more time goes the less they try to argue against it.
Also the worshiping of abusers like heroes is just ridiculous. And even Yukkuri, who are depicted as "evil" is done in a pathetic manner. They messed up your flowerbed? Cats and dogs do it all the time. Yukkuri abusers believe that Yukkuri are like animals. So it should be obvious that they act like animals, on their basic instincts. With this attitude cats and dogs should be tortured as well. The stress is on word "torture". Not scaring away, but torture. meaningless torture. If Yukkuri would be intelligent (God forbid this! XD) then they would know very well how not to get on the bad side of humans. Another contradiction.
Also saying that "dirty" Yukkuri sleeping on your car is worser than cats as Yukkuri are just dirty... Stray cats are also dirty. Both are poor things that were abandoned by humans, just like Yukkuri are depicted as abandoned pets or descendants of these pets. When i moved to a new place i was a bit careless and left my balcony door open not knowing about the cat population living nearby. One male cat came in and took shit in my kitchen. Did I kill it? Did I torture it? No, I let it go out by himself. My balcony actually became a safe heaven for stray cats to rest, hide and eat. Myself can't have cat due to my allergy. But this makes the excuse for torturing it even worser. Kiriraitaa's baby Yukkuri peed to its owners hand. What followed was a punishment with fire. Oh god... Of Yukkuri child broke some glass shit while playing. it got spanked hard. When its siblings were not happy with it, they were stuck to a microwave.
Bad and pathetic excuses, mentality of a crusader to burn all pagans (Yukkuri lovers.) and wish to spread their abuse crap and crush everybody who does not like it. Bleh to OYP.
lol, That's what I dislike about fans of touhou. Such a big controversy just because of a damn pic of a yukkuri taking a bath.
I'm the mod on OYP. Lets start off by saying: Yes, the site is 90% abuse. After all, it's straight from 2ch. But all you people who are boo-hooing about your posts getting deleted, let me point out one thing.
We only have one rule. It's on almost every single page.
"Please refrain from making anti-abuse comments on the violent material, and keep violent comments out of the family friendly material. Just be friendly to each other, and we won't have to moderate any posts here. Yay!"
So guess why your posts are deleted? Feel free to comment on your distaste for yukkuri abuse all you want. Do it in family_friendly pictures where its actually allowed and HEYO! Nothing gets deleted!!
I've even invited all of you several times to discuss the morality of yukkuri abuse or your views on the yu-fanfic groups and I don't see a single post from any of you self-proclaimed "yukkuri lovers". So it makes me think that you aren't so much looking for "discussion" but rather just want to stir up shit with the yukkuri abusers.
Want the link again? Here it is. Keep it civil as its mostly a fanfic group.
I delete abuse oriented comments on family_friendly pictures as well, but the only problems I ever get lately are hamatek/AIE being an idiot and yukkuri-love crusaders coming in to call everybody monsters, ala hand of fayt just yesterday.
Hand of fayt posted 17 messages yesterday, 14 of them were messages telling abusers to go burn in hell in abuse-oriented pictures. You don't read the one rule we have, you break it 14 times in a single day, and you wonder why I banned you?
PS: tea and sun don't represent our views. I personally write more nature and neutral oriented stories than anything else.
I've read your stories. Despite the fact that _some_ of the yukkuris involved may be shitheads, there's still a lot of innocent and good yukkuri that get unjustified, horrifying abuse. In fact, I don't believe in shitheads at all really, it's just a bullshit attempt by insecure abusers to try and 'justify' their actions (NO, IT'S NEVER JUSTIFIED!) It's just pathetic. And it's not very believable coming from you. Go back to OYP.
He's here because he's got teenage angst. Even more hilarious? The OYP mod is in on that picture 6196. I read around, a few people said it was retaliation or making an equivalent example of the kind of posts that people were making on abuse pictures. Bullshit, as usual. You can't trust ANY of these... people (that's a stretch).
And high five, Kyukan! It really is pathetic and crap. These people just need to check into the nearest loony bin, ASAP. They need to grow up.
poweryoga said: why should I? Danbooru is such a wonderful source for touhou hentai.
You mean guro and sick-fuckery? We don't like your kind around here. Get the message?
poweryoga said: I'm the mod on OYP. Lets start off by saying: Yes, the site is 90% abuse. After all, it's straight from 2ch. But all you people who are boo-hooing about your posts getting deleted, let me point out one thing.
We only have one rule. It's on almost every single page.
"Please refrain from making anti-abuse comments on the violent material, and keep violent comments out of the family friendly material. Just be friendly to each other, and we won't have to moderate any posts here. Yay!"
So guess why your posts are deleted? Feel free to comment on your distaste for yukkuri abuse all you want. Do it in family_friendly pictures where its actually allowed and HEYO! Nothing gets deleted!!
I've even invited all of you several times to discuss the morality of yukkuri abuse or your views on the yu-fanfic groups and I don't see a single post from any of you self-proclaimed "yukkuri lovers". So it makes me think that you aren't so much looking for "discussion" but rather just want to stir up shit with the yukkuri abusers.
Want the link again? Here it is. Keep it civil as its mostly a fanfic group.
I delete abuse oriented comments on family_friendly pictures as well, but the only problems I ever get lately are hamatek/AIE being an idiot and yukkuri-love crusaders coming in to call everybody monsters, ala hand of fayt just yesterday.
Hand of fayt posted 17 messages yesterday, 14 of them were messages telling abusers to go burn in hell in abuse-oriented pictures. You don't read the one rule we have, you break it 14 times in a single day, and you wonder why I banned you?
PS: tea and sun don't represent our views. I personally write more nature and neutral oriented stories than anything else.
My problem was never directed at people like you, or at the subject matter itself, but at people like Tea and Sun. That is really what the issue is at here. I tried to discuss the matter that I thought the anon in a story was a smug, arrogant, jerk and was unlikable and got my posts deleted. There is also plenty more people like Tea and Sun, but they are the more extreme examples.
I don't agree with HOF's decision, since it adds nothing to the discussion, but I don't agree with situations where someone like JIE brings up the reasoning that since GTA is okay, so should yukkuri abuse and I bring up the differences between the appeal of GTA as compared, to lets say, Manhunt. My post didn't even analyze yukkuri abuse but said that manhunt was weird in that it was A.) Gory but in a very juvenile way. Similar to the case of Mad World. They are gruesome, but they are juvenile, not playing the violence straight as in most abuse stories.
Mainly the problem comes down to the fact that having these two groups in close proximity isn't likely to end well since one group is advocating gore-exploitation and the other side wants cute images. I don't see why these groups would get along.
Danbooru is a place for guro and sick-fuckery? Sorry, not my cup of tea. I prefer Reisen and tewi h-doujins and images.
The OYP mod is in on that picture 6196.
Became a mod in early august. Didn't have power to delete that shit way back in may, and there's too many to go through one by one. You're welcome to post up ones you find though, since you seem to be scouring through these images looking for material you can use against yukkuri abusers. I remember I got mod powers because Hamatek/AIE started trolling family_friendly pictures and it was getting out of hand. Not the reason you were looking for?
But then we'd have to try to explain how beanpaste make these little shits walk talk and ..."
As opposed to "these little fucking adorable shits"? That's how I talk/type, sorry for being a potty mouth! You should see me in starcraft games. I curse like a sailor.
It's fine if you think yukkuri abuse is not justified. I'm not forcing you to like abuse, but frankly I don't see whats the big deal about this whole crusade against yukkuri abusers. It's fiction and its not real. I'd frankly be more disturbed if someone owns the whole SAW collection because that's just disturbing as fuck. Do you read a novel about some human tragedy, get so worked up at the fiction that you have to write the author telling him he's scum and deserves to die? Ever read Rape of Nanking? That's reality. Shouldn't you get more upset over reality than fiction?
I think there's a major difference between us. I love yukkuris as a work of fiction, and it's interesting to be a giant nerd about it, regardless of whether its abuse or family_friendly. You two just want something or someone to wave a stick at. Artists protray yukkuris in all different manners, who am I to tell them "stop that shit" or "you're a fucker to draw that?" What was that about censorship?
I understand that. I don't disagree with you about the anon, but again, its breaking the rules. We went over this months ago: anons are anons and they do what they do. They're assholes and we all know, and you don't point out the obvious. That ALWAYS opens up a can of worms and devolves into arguments.
Your posts about GTA getting deleted isn't because that was against the rules, but its because I delete the whole thread of argument when I moderate. You'll notice a lot of other related comments from bystanders are gone as well, I assure you.
If you seriously want to discuss the anon in the story or about yukkuri stories in general... MAKE A TOPIC IN THE GROUPS. I don't want to have a 5 page discussion on the front page fucking up translations.
I will say the FF images are cleaned up nicely and I thank you for that. I wasn't aware that it was against the rules and I thought this anon was particularly smug. Most of it, actually, was how boring this story was because it was just anon coming in, killing some yukkuri, etc. Its come to a point that I can't even say something like, "I don't think this story is that good" without being attacked. And Tea somehow has it in his head that I want to kill him and other abusers, and tends to over analyze things, such as my name, as proof of misconduct. I had no idea there was groups or anything else, and to be honest, there was no indication up until just now such things existed.
Abuse fans just love to completely ignore any criticism and respond to something else entirely. I'm no prude, I got into yukkuri after seeing a thread on gurochan. I can have a civilized discussion with people who like guro.
Look through the comments on a rape or guro pic from a site like gelbooru. Do you see anyone writing creepy diatribes in favor of the Randian Übermenschen who are committing the crime? When someone who usually doesn't like guro politely comments that they usually don't like guro, no one loses their shit. They also don't act like there's literally no reason for a person to get upset at this fetish. And, most importantly, anyone who takes it too far, who actually says that they would do it if they could get away with it, is the bad guy.
That's not the case with OYP.
If abuse-fans just enjoyed watching yukkuri get abused, then that would be fine. The problem is their pathetic rationalizations and monologues. Like they expect Ayn Rand to pop out of the grave and blow them for their self-righteous monologues.
Well, fuck them. Seriously, fuck them. And fuck you and your false equivalencies. And your rationalizations. OYP genuinely made me question my faith in humanity. Seeing that I'm not alone in hating OYP gives me hope.
Just ease my curiosity. Fucking up someone else’s art is quite a crappy thing to do. And to keep it there is quite promoting this little „art theft“. Is it allowed by your rules or do you not give a shit?
No its not allowed, hence the lack of those images post 2008. (Check the date of the image) I believe that image was kept around as a prime example of the shit that's NOT acceptable on OYP.
We had a huge argument about this a while back, almost 2 years ago. 2ch had a similar argument, and I'm not willing to go into the history of either. I believe in respecting the artist's work no matter how much you dislike it, and most people on OYP agree.
Just remember: NONE OF US EDIT IMAGES. Only thing that gets edited are translations and those are typesets.
Shit, there's only like 5 artists on OYP. All old edits are done by Japan.
I'm not trying to shove abuse shit into anybody's face, I realize its something that comes with the person's preferences, and I personally like both abuse and family_friendly stories and images. I suppose that still makes me a babykilling kittenpunching psycho in training though!
Despite what idiots like Segway think, I clean up EVERYTHING. Abuse or family friendly.
Yeah he's a smug bastard. I used to post translations for anko stories but I don't have as much time as I used to. Either way you have the address. Keep it civil and we'll have no problems.
@ poweryoga Give me a break. You literally define family_friendly as anything having "no potential for violence." I'm sure that there's no way that abuse-fans could justify violence. Oh, look, here's JIE claiming that a comic of a Reimu playing cards with a shinki isn't FF because Reimu says "Sorry for being the greatest." http://bbs.shii.org/yukkuri/post/view/24667
How about if I define violent material as any pic that I like that has violence? Then I won't leave anti-abuse comments on violent material.
And that brings me to another issue. What constitutes an anti-abuse comment? I agree that "death to abusers" is anti-abuse, but criticizing the logic of a pro-abuse rationalization is not anti-abuse. Unless you're poweryoga. Then any comment you disagree with is a violation of the rule.
Which wouldn't be so bad, if it wasn't for the fact that it only goes one way. Here's some people calling some koyukkuris shitheads for no reason http://bbs.shii.org/yukkuri/post/view/27862
That seems like at least as much of a violation of the rule in spirit (technically the pic wasn't tagged as FF, but the tagging system on OYP is a joke). Oh, here's another one. http://bbs.shii.org/yukkuri/post/view/27581
That seems like at least as much of a violation of the rule in spirit (technically the pic wasn't tagged as FF, but the tagging system on OYP is a joke). Oh, here's another one. http://bbs.shii.org/yukkuri/post/view/27581
Hypocrisy it easy!
Oh, and I want to make it clear that I only went through the first few pages of results for translated nonviolent pics to find those. And there were more like that in those few pages. So don't try to claim that I'm looking for reasons to get upset.
jogiff said: @ poweryoga Give me a break. You literally define family_friendly as anything having "no potential for violence." I'm sure that there's no way that abuse-fans could justify violence. Oh, look, here's JIE claiming that a comic of a Reimu playing cards with a shinki isn't FF because Reimu says "Sorry for being the greatest." http://bbs.shii.org/yukkuri/post/view/24667
What's wrong with family_friendly having "no potential for violence"? It's the holy-grail of tags that is safe for anybody to look at with absolutely no chance for misinterpretation. JIE is not the authority, he's not a mod. He's an user expressing his opinion. Maybe you should take up your beef with him instead of me. In that case, I don't tend to agree with him since the picture is pretty much family_friendly. But hey, I don't spend all day on OYP, I only check it once a day on weekdays.
How about if I define violent material as any pic that I like that has violence? Then I won't leave anti-abuse comments on violent material.
And that brings me to another issue. What constitutes an anti-abuse comment? I agree that "death to abusers" is anti-abuse, but criticizing the logic of a pro-abuse rationalization is not anti-abuse. Unless you're poweryoga. Then any comment you disagree with is a violation of the rule.
Well, what is criticizing the logic of abuse then? Healthy discussion?
By your logic anybody can criticize people loving family friendly pictures because they don't like the logic. Is that an anti-family_friendly comment?
See where this gets us? I delete that shit to prevent useless arguments we've had 20 times already.
There's a few things that constitute anti-abuse/family_friendly comments. Keep in mind each one of these resulted from pages worth of arguments over the past 2 years, I'm hardly the end-all authority.
-talking shit about the anon involved -telling people to go kill themselves or similar -starting up shit with people who are enjoying the work -criticizing the work for no reason other than its family_friendly or abuse oriented
Discussions about the actual work at hand is welcome. If you've actually LOOKED in OYP, you'll see instances of non-douchebaggery.
In general, disruptive posts are deleted if they don't add to the discussion. eg: one liners spammed all over the fucking place is frowned upon.
Which wouldn't be so bad, if it wasn't for the fact that it only goes one way. Here's some people calling some koyukkuris shitheads for no reason http://bbs.shii.org/yukkuri/post/view/27862
That seems like at least as much of a violation of the rule in spirit (technically the pic wasn't tagged as FF, but the tagging system on OYP is a joke). Oh, here's another one. http://bbs.shii.org/yukkuri/post/view/27581
Hypocrisy it easy!
Thanks for pointing those 2 out. I am only one person and can't be bothered to look through 20 pages of comments every day.
I'll be honest, I don't see why people are attacking Poweryoga, he does moderate things fairly and it doesn't do any good to purposely troll another imageboard with the intent of trolling.
I think we are being two quick to jump on the backs of all users at OYP. I dislike abuse passionately, but mainly the problem is with certain users. Some are just trolls and whatnot so its best, for now, to put this episode behind us since we now have a place to go to that will focus just on safe images. For me, its being ruined because certain users are paranoid and jump into discussions that are normal and start issues, then blame the other side for it.
Also the main reason for the new booru is the expanded functionality of the booru system and that I personally think its best just to have a booru specific to yukkuri art that is separate from the abuse community.
poweryoga said: Hand of Fayt posted 17 messages yesterday, 14 of them were messages telling abusers to go burn in hell in abuse-oriented pictures. You don't read the one rule we have, you break it 14 times in a single day, and you wonder why I banned you?
I never wondered why you banned me. I just explained that I wasn't around when said warning was issued. My 14 comments were made in the space of about 30 minutes. (Fast WPM typing)
I never actually saw the rule page, I have a bad habit of not checking them when I first join a site and for that I'm sorry. I understand that to you, I ignored my warning and continued my "rants". However, as I said earlier, I wasn't there to see my warning.
I don't blame you for your assumption and inevitable banning of my "Hand of Fayt" account. But I hope I clarified everything when I made the "HoF" account. As I said on OYP, ban the "HoF" account too if you wish, I really don't care. I just wanted to clarify that I did not actually ignore the warning I was never around for.
beer said: "Public Enemy Number One"? What the fuck? Are you retarded fucks actually PROUD of trolling an imageboard? I can't downvote you people enough.
I don't troll. I just state my opinions. I wasn't looking for a rise out of any of you, I just stated what was on my raged mind. My disbelief was just that, enraged disbelief.
I'm not "proud" of "trolling" and I don't represent the opinions of anyone on this board or any other board someone may come from to give their opinion on anything on any site. So please, don't judge anyone from this site on account of my actions. They are not me and I am not them.
Finally, we aren't "retarded fucks". I'm sure all of us are rather intelligent and good people. Just because I expressed distaste in what I saw, doesn't imply that I'm "retarded". The fact that you got that impression brings me to question your maturity and line of thinking.
My comments may have been over the top, but I just couldn't believe what I saw. I'm sorry for what I said at OYP but that doesn't mean you need to come here and belittle these people with your own comments that are just as over the top as my deleted ones were.
Last I knew, some of the other members of OYP and I came to an understanding and an agreement. I don't know why this "war", if you will, has had to migrate over here. I thought it was ended back at OYP, wasn't it?
By the way, I think we need to vote down these arguments so that they don't distract people from actually doing what it is they come to this image for. To view the image, not read the argument/war...
Well, we are all capable of deleting our own comments. It's one of the options we have in the "quote/DELETE/vote up/vote down" menu below each comment.
Not there yet. Commonly (so the OYP tells us) yukkuris only dissolve when exposed to water in large amounts (pools, heavy rain, etc.) and/or over a long time. But then again, that depends on the artist, and judging from his/her works in here, Pixiv and even the OYP, Kanno pretty much belongs to the family-friendly side of the yukkuri fandom. And while we're at it, I also remembered a Pageratta comic showing a Yukkureimu acting like a kickboard for Chen (both of which are supposedly incompatible to water) - complete with the audacious claim "New fact: Yukkuris float."
On top of that, some Yukkuris have been stated and shown to have been tolerant of water, doubly so if they are pets, as is probably the case with this pic.